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stanhowemt@aol.com  406-949-3448

BALEWAGONS 


6 25 18 -- Sorry no balewagons other than a little 1002 I still haven't got brought back to Helena.  Call me.  949-3448

5 15  2018

SOLD and gone off to a new hayfield 

NEW HOLLAND 1033 Balewagon in decent condition.  Should be in sometime in mid-May or a little earlier.  Too muddy to get it out of where it is parked until it dries up a little.  These are top quality wagons and hard to find in decent condition.  This one was in the field working in 2015 so should be good to go.  

These are great balewagons, make a very nice 3 wide stack and are still narrow enough to pull down the highway legally as they are 11'6".  

3 wide and 7 high 14 x 18 x 34 gives you 104 bales in a 7 high stack.  At 75 lb 104 bales will weigh almost 4 ton, the wagon weighs 3 ton empty so you can't use an 8N Ford on the front of it. It will also stack 16 x 18 x 42 and put 83 bales on every load.  If you have an old (or new) 50-60 HP tractor with a PTO you can stack a lot of hay in a day with one of these and move it quite a ways without wasting time or energy.   You should be able to easily load and stack two loads an hour and have time for a break.  If you are good and the bales are tight and close to the stack you can probably to 3 loads an hour.  If every thing is right and you are really good you can stack 4 loads an hour.  Stack 300 bales an hour and you can get a lot done in a day.  One of the great things about a 1033 is that it has wide push offs so it is easier to get the stack started right and keep it tight as you stack. Below is the craigslist post:
Here is an older New Holland 1033 Bale Wagon. This is the 3 wide, which is hard to find. These were built from 1972- 78, they are pretty old and a lot of them have already been scrapped or should be. This one is in pretty good condition and should go to work with very little needed to get it field ready. I, however, have not used it. I bought it to resell. I already have another bale wagon to use -- (if I ever have enough hay to need one. The last few years I have just sold what hay I have out of the field. I could have hauled it with a pitchfork and a wheelbarrow last year)

They will load bales from 34 - 42 inches in either 16 x 18 (83 bales) or 14 x 18 104 bales) and make a stack 3 bales wide and 7 bales high. You need a fairly good sized tractor to run one of these since the wagon weighs close to 3 ton without hay on it + whatever your bales add up to. You not only need 45-50 hp minimum to pull it and load but you need a substantial tractor on the front to handle that weight -- especially if you are hauling in hilly country. This is not a bale wagon for an 8 N or a little Kubota. 

I bought this one a year or so ago and just got it home. It looks pretty decent although it hasn't been used for several years since they went to having their hay custom cut and baled. Guy I bought it from said it worked fine as long as he had it. 

Like all of them that have set for awhile, I would oil up the pump chain, check out the loader drive and all that before I needed it but generally speaking, these things are so trouble free they seldom need much to get them in the field and working. 

The tables and body are straight -- which tells you it hasn't been tipped over with a load on it, one of the push off feet has obviously been in an argument that something else won, there are a couple welds and the shoe on the loader has been replaced with a shop made one like they all have but overall it looks pretty good. The rolling rack is straight, the back rack is straight, etc. Come look. It is located between Helena and Townsend. 

Prices on these run from $3000 for the ones that should be headed for the scrapper to close to $15000 for the ones with shiny new red paint and work done to make sure they are close to like new. The price on this one seems fair to me, probably on the low side, by June it would probably bring more money but in March it's 5 and a half grand . 

I pulled it home on the Interstate behind my old F250 at about 50 with the regular implement tires on it. The tires are good, we had no problems, you should be able to hook on it and go without a problem if you keep your speed down and aren't going half way across the country with it. Nice thing about these is they have 16 inch wheels so you can put a set of used pickup tires on them for almost nothing and go smoking down the highway at 70 instead of 45. 

NO TEXTS!! I will not respond. Call me. 406-- nine four 9, three 44 eight. Or Craigslist email system. 

I also have coming up for sale this spring a couple balers, a nice little New Holland 310, 14 x 18 bales, medium capacity, will bale on 35 hp all day long and make nice bales the right size and weight for geezers, women and kids to handle. Makes a nice Alfalfa bale at about 75 lbs and a nice grass bale at 55. I haven't had a chance to check it out but it should be a good one. $4500 after we get it checked out. 

New Holland 275, the old reliable 275, the first redesigned series after the first small sized New Holland balers from the 60's. This one came right out of the field and should be ready to go back to work. 14 x 18, same bales as the above 310. Don't have a tractor?? Don't need one. This one has Wisconsin V4 engine power. These engine powered balers were really popular in the days before tractors all had live PTO. The engine runs the baler at a constant speed, the pulling unit can be slowed down or speeded up depending on the hay coming in without overspeeding the baler or slowing it down to where it won't pack the bale chamber. They are nearly impossible to find anymore. I don't think you can even buy a new baler with an engine but I always liked them better than a PTO drive. $2950 for this one -- with good paint it would be more money for sure. 



Also for sale: New Holland 1495 Swather. Gas, 12 foot header, conditioner, cab, used it last year to cut my hay. Good for smaller acreages and priced right for as nice as it is. Not new but still a lot of use left in it. $6500 

International 400 Swather. Gas, 14 foot header, nice older swather. Nice cab, runs great, cuts great, came off a small acreage hobby farm where it cut 25-30 acres for the last 20 years. Note that this is located at Hoven Implement in Great Falls. Stop in and talk to Ken Posen or one of the other salesman. I consigned it there so we didn't have to haul it to Helena. 

$5500 cash!!

 


Stan Howe 406-949-3448  stanhowemt@aol.com 





On site:  Nice New Holland 1002 --  This is a nice one and will go right to the field and go to work.   I owned this once before, sold it to a neighbor, he used it for 7 or 8 years, quit haying and sold it back to me.  Has never been used much.  SOLD THIS ONE.  I HAVE ANOTHER THAT WILL BE COMING IN SOON!  SCROLL DOWN!  IT'S NOT AS NICE BUT CHEAPER.   




  
The 1002 does NOT have self contained hydraulics.  You need to have a tractor that has hydraulics with valves.  This one is set up with a switchable valve, it is probably a little easier if you have you tractor set up with TWO valves.  That makes it easier to remember which valve runs which table and the push-offs.  There is a little learning curve on all of these wagons.  I have the complete owner's instruction manual with it and also a copy of a general service manual for NH wagons that will go with it, you still have to spend a little time understanding how these things work and make sure it is compatible with your tractor.  For example, if you have a Kubota tractor with a detachable backhoe, you may have full time, full pressure taps with no way to control them.  The wagon will not work with that setup, you need to buy a self contained wagon like a 1000, 1030, 1033, 1034, etc.   

JULY 10

Coming in:  New Holland 1002 -- Decent older balewagon coming in from the Shelby area.    $2250  Not as spiffy as the one above but should be good to go. It will have radial tires on it so you can pull it down the road to move it.  It needs a day's work doing some cosmetic things and putting a few bolts back in but overall it's pretty good.  At that price you can afford a little work and a couple rattle cans of yellow.





NEW HOLLAND 1030 -- $3750  Sold - going to Washington.  

NICE New Holland 1030.  These are the same basic wagon as the 1002 except they are self contained.  All you need is a tractor. The wagon has hydraulics and only connects to the tractor with a PTO shaft.  They also do not have the tie that turns a couple of the bales while stacking.  I never have used that on a 1002 and while some people use that, not a lot do.  You have to have very uniform bales to use the "tie" or you end up with rows pushed apart or gaps in the side of the stack.  I always just hand stack a single bale row down the center of the stack rather than trying to use the tie.  Works better for me.  

These were the first of the faster wagons.  This one probably dates from the late 60's or early 70's but sure doesn't show it.  It is as nice as any unrestored 1030 I have ever seen.  According to the auctioneer at the auction I bought it at it had been stored inside for many years.  It looks like it. 

These were the first to have a hydraulic motor on the pickup which is a better system than the belt driven one on the earlier models.  It also has a hydraulic cylinder instead of the rope and cathead system the earlier ones had.  

One thing I really like about a 1030 is that they have 15 inch wheels and tires on them and are designed to be pulled right down the road at highway speeds.  I pulled this one 175 miles at 55-60 without a problem.  Can't do that with the ones that have implement tires.  The tires on this a getting pretty weather checked, I will put better tires on it before it goes down the road.


The pins are pretty tight, the push-offs have not banged into the table and got all bent up, the loader is not bent, etc.  This is a nice bale wagon.  Other places around the country are getting $4500-5000 and up for these.  Buy this one now and you can probably use it for ten years and get your money back and then some.  Like anything else this old there are a few little things that probably will need some going over but with virtually no work it should go to the field and go to work.

Like all of these, they are sensitive to bale length and like uniform bales.  Get your bales the right length and get the wagon adjusted to that length, hook it up and go. Correctly adjusted it will haul 55 16 x 18 bales or 64 14 x 18 bales.  It will like bales in the 38-44 inch range best but will stack longer ones if you do some adjusting.  


These don't take too much of a tractor horsepower wise and they are stable so they won't tip over.  You can run this all day and do all the work you want to do with the AC WD45 I also have for sale. (sold that WD45) Or with the Ford 861 I have for sale.  Or the IHC 454 I have for sale.  Or the IHC 300.  Any little tractor will pretty much run it.  I know some guys stack with an 8N Ford on one of these but I wouldn't do it unless your fields are absolutely flat and you are not hauling on the road.  8N's supposedly have brakes but I've never seen one that would stop a loaded bale wagon going down a hill.  They are just too small a tractor to have this kind of weight behind them.  

Stan Howe 406-949-3448 Helena, Montana




$3750 BUY A GOOD ONE AND GO TO WORK OR BUY A CHEAP ONE AND GO TO WORK ON IT.  

 New Holland 1034.  Nice older wagon.  This is basically the 1033 with the addition of the single bale un-loader feature.  $5750  SOLD TO THE FIRST GUY THAT CAME TO LOOK AT IT!!!
   

This nice little New Holland 1000 is sold.  


JUNE 18, 2014  SOLD, IT WENT TO IDAHO.  THANKS FOR THE INTEREST. 

May 22, 2014

Just got in a nice New Holland 1032.  Came out of the north country where most people are farmers and don't put up a lot of hay.  It is in excellent condition, just had a recent trip through the shop and is guaranteed to go to the field and work.  The 1032 is by far the best of the two wide pull type wagons, it is heavier built and was designed to stack a lot of hay in a day.  

Even the paint is good on this one, you'll look good working in your field and it will stack a nice tight stack.  Has all the desirable features, the tires are good, I put road lights on it and it is good to go.  You'll wear out a good pickup looking for one this good and then the one you buy you'll probably have to take home and work on.  $7250 and worth it.  406-949-3448  

 

May 20, 2013 

NEW HOLLAND 1002 BALE WAGON -- $2750  


 THIS ONE IS SOLD, IT WENT TO CODY, WYOMING. 



THIS SOLD IN JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER I PUT IT ON.  IT WAS A NICE WAGON AND WELL WORTH THE MONEY.  


Pretty nice little New Holland 1000 bale wagon. 




I've bought and sold quite a bit of small machinery the past 25 years or so and this better small haying machinery is getting harder and harder to find. Most of the new stuff is so big and expensive the smaller operator can't justify owning it for putting up a few acres of hay. I've paid for a lot of machinery by doing the haying for the neighbors who don't want to or can't put up their own hay. If you have a little swather or good sickle bar mower and a side delivery you can put up a lot of hay with a nice little New Holland 275 or 277 baler & a small tractor. You can make a good days wages by stacking it for them after you get it put up. When we were doing it a few years ago around Helena we were charging two bucks a bale laying in the field, another 50-75 cents a bale to stack it. If you have good small equipment so you aren't broke down all the time it doesn't take long to make pretty good money doing that. With the price of gas and hay the last couple years you would probably want to raise the price a little but there sure is money to be made doing it. 




















































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