JUNE 1, 2015 -- Here is what I have at the moment for balewagons, either in Helena or coming in soon. Call 949-3448 and I'll fill you in.
On site: Nice New Holland 1002 -- This is a nice one and will go right to the field and go to work. I owned this once before, sold it to a neighbor, he used it for 7 or 8 years, quit haying and sold it back to me. Has never been used much. SOLD THIS ONE. I HAVE ANOTHER THAT WILL BE COMING IN SOON! CHECK BACK.
The 1002 does NOT have self contained hydraulics. You need to have a tractor that has hydraulics with valves. This one is set up with a switchable valve, it is probably a little easier if you have you tractor set up with TWO valves. That makes it easier to remember which valve runs which table and the push-offs. There is a little learning curve on all of these wagons. I have the complete owner's instruction manual with it and also a copy of a general service manual for NH wagons that will go with it, you still have to spend a little time understanding how these things work and make sure it is compatible with your tractor. For example, if you have a Kubota tractor with a detachable backhoe, you may have full time, full pressure taps with no way to control them. The wagon will not work with that setup, you need to buy a self contained wagon like a 1000, 1030, 1033, 1034, etc.
Coming in: New Holland 1002 -- Nice older balewagon coming in from the Shelby area. $2450 Not as spiffy as the one above but should be good to go. It will have radial tires on it so you can pull it down the road to move it.
NEW HOLLAND 1030 -- $3750
NICE New Holland 1030. These are the same basic wagon as the 1002 except they are self contained. All you need is a tractor. The wagon has hydraulics and only connects to the tractor with a PTO shaft. They also do not have the tie that turns a couple of the bales while stacking. I never have used that on a 1002 and while some people use that, not a lot do. You have to have very uniform bales to use the "tie" or you end up with rows pushed apart or gaps in the side of the stack. I always just hand stack a single bale row down the center of the stack rather than trying to use the tie. Works better for me.
These were the first of the faster wagons. This one probably dates from the late 60's or early 70's but sure doesn't show it. It is as nice as any unrestored 1030 I have ever seen. According to the auctioneer at the auction I bought it at it had been stored inside for many years. It looks like it.
These were the first to have a hydraulic motor on the pickup which is a better system than the belt driven one on the earlier models. It also has a hydraulic cylinder instead of the rope and cathead system the earlier ones had.
One thing I really like about a 1030 is that they have 15 inch wheels and tires on them and are designed to be pulled right down the road at highway speeds. I pulled this one 175 miles at 55-60 without a problem. Can't do that with the ones that have implement tires. The tires on this a getting pretty weather checked, I will put better tires on it before it goes down the road.
The pins are pretty tight, the push-offs have not banged into the table and got all bent up, the loader is not bent, etc. This is a nice bale wagon. Other places around the country are getting $4500-5000 and up for these. Buy this one now and you can probably use it for ten years and get your money back and then some. Like anything else this old there are a few little things that probably will need some going over but with virtually no work it should go to the field and go to work.
Like all of these, they are sensitive to bale length and like uniform bales. Get your bales the right length and get the wagon adjusted to that length, hook it up and go. Correctly adjusted it will haul 55 16 x 18 bales or 64 14 x 18 bales. It will like bales in the 38-44 inch range best but will stack longer ones if you do some adjusting.
These don't take too much of a tractor horsepower wise and they are stable so they won't tip over. You can run this all day and do all the work you want to do with the AC WD45 I also have for sale. (sold that WD45) Or with the Ford 861 I have for sale. Or the IHC 454 I have for sale. Or the IHC 300. Any little tractor will pretty much run it. I know some guys stack with an 8N Ford on one of these but I wouldn't do it unless your fields are absolutely flat and you are not hauling on the road. 8N's supposedly have brakes but I've never seen one that would stop a loaded bale wagon going down a hill. They are just too small a tractor to have this kind of weight behind them.
Stan Howe 406-949-3448 Helena, Montana
$3750 BUY A GOOD ONE AND GO TO WORK OR BUY A CHEAP ONE AND GO TO WORK ON IT.
Coming in some time in JUNE: New Holland 1034. Nice older wagon. This is basically the 1033 with the addition of the single bale un-loader feature. $5750 It is located near Conrad, I will probably be moving it into town and leaving it there for a few days so if you are in the north country you can see it there and save some travel miles and time.
This nice little New Holland 1000 is sold.
JUNE 18, 2014 SOLD, IT WENT TO IDAHO. THANKS FOR THE INTEREST.
May 22, 2014
Just got in a nice New Holland 1032. Came out of the north country where most people are farmers and don't put up a lot of hay. It is in excellent condition, just had a recent trip through the shop and is guaranteed to go to the field and work. The 1032 is by far the best of the two wide pull type wagons, it is heavier built and was designed to stack a lot of hay in a day.
Even the paint is good on this one, you'll look good working in your field and it will stack a nice tight stack. Has all the desireable features, the tires are good, I put road lights on it and it is good to go. You'll wear out a good pickup looking for one this good and then the one you buy you'll probably have to take home and work on. $7250 and worth it. 406-949-3448
May 20, 2013
NEW HOLLAND 1002 BALE WAGON -- $2750
THIS ONE IS SOLD, IT WENT TO CODY, WYOMING. I DO HAVE ANOTHER ONE JUST IN FROM A SMALL RANCH IN DEER LODGE. IT IS A NEW HOLLAND 1000, ALMOST THE SAME AS THIS 1002 EXCEPT IT HAS SELF CONTAINED HYDRAULICS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT PROBABLY JUST CAME OUT OF THE FIELD BUT HAS BEEN SETTING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE ROADED IT HOME ABOUT 75 MILES, PULLS FINE, TIRES ARE GOOD. SCROLL DOWN TO FOR INFO AND PICS.
NICE LITTLE WAGON, doesn't look like it ever had a lot of use, most of these little ones either had very little use because they were on small farms that didn't have a lot of hay to put up or they were on farms with a lot of hay to put up that didn't have money enough to buy the bigger wagon they needed --- bought a little 1002 and beat it to death. This is one off a small farm where it never got a lot of use before they went to round bales. You can tell from the pictures that it never had a lot of use. Even the paint is good and the side irons are not bent.
This does not have self contained hydraulics and needs to have tractor hydraulics to work. This has the pushoffs that make it SOOOOOO much easier to make a stack. Some of these, especially the 1010, do not have the push offs and they are close to impossible to stack with. This is a great little wagon, you just back up to the stack, tip the main table up, back up tight against the stack, activate the pushoffs while keeping a light foot on the brake and it will make a very tight stack. It takes a little practice to do it right but once you get it figured out you can stack a load every 15 minutes, or about 200 bales an hour if you don't have to carry them very far. If you are close by and need help I'll come and show you how to stack with it.
This has the tie for the 5th row that is designed to make the stack more stable. I prefer not to use the tie, just put a single bale on the top row, stand the table up, push 'em off and go back for another load. This stacks 55 14 x 18 bales on each load and the bales need to be 36-40 inch and pretty uniform for it to work like it should. It likes 35 HP or more on the front of it with just about any kind of hydraulics. I've seen these used with a little 8N Ford running the hydraulics off the loader pump but it likes a little bigger tractor.
It needs some straightening on the mounts on the bale loader, it looks like they hooked a post and bent the loader back a little. That's pretty common on bale wagons. A couple hours with a torch and a hammer or and rattle can of paint fixes it. This one also needs the belt pulley for the loader drive, which is available from New Holland.
I don't know if I'll have time to fix the loader or not before haying season so I'll make you a deal. You take it as is, spent a couple hours straightening the bars that hold the loader, I'll knock $300 off the price. We'll both be happy. A new pulley from New Holland is about $100 and the belt is about $35 so you'll get pretty well paid for your work.
This would be a great companion to the New Holland 910 swather and the New Holland 277 baler I have for sale on the other pages. You could put up a LOT of hay with this set for not a lot of money.
Notice in the pictures that there is a side delivery rake loaded in the wagon bed. That is sold. Notice the tire on the second table. That is the tire that goes on the loader side. I put transport tires on it to move it from where I bought it and blew one of the transport tires. Couldn't hardly believe I blew a steel belt radial. I was only pulling it about 60. Anyway, that is the tire for it. Tires are excellent.
THIS SOLD IN JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER I PUT IT ON. IT WAS A NICE WAGON AND WELL WORTH THE MONEY.
Pretty nice little New Holland 1000 bale wagon. This was one of the first of the smaller bale wagons New Holland made in the late 60's and through the 70's. This one came out of the Deer Lodge valley and hasn't been used for years. These were designed for the smaller rancher so was built with self-contained hydraulics as most of the smaller tractors of the day did not have hydraulics on them. This has a pump, all it needs is a tractor in front of it with a PTO and about 35 or more HP. These are a nice little bale wagon and this one has been updated to cure the two complaints there were about these when they first came out. They didn't have the pushoff feet and had a little capstan and a rope to lift the loader. Somewhere along the way this one got the pushoff feet and rams added and also got a hydraulic cylinder added to raise the loader. Makes it a lot easier to stack with and makes it easier to pick the loader up to get through a gate or go down the road.
This has pretty good tires on it, if I were going to pull it down the road a long ways I'd find a set of pickup tires and put them on, that way you can pull it 55-60 and not worry about the tire.
Many of these have the undercarriage torn up on them from being drug across irrigation ditches and a lot of them are just worn out. This one was put in a shed years ago and hasn't been used hard and parked because it was worn out. They just moved on to round bales. If you look at the bed on this one you'll see that it's flat and not twisted or torn up like a lot of them are. It's had a little welding done on the uprights but other than that I don't see evidence of repairs, it looks like the push off feet should work fine and even tho the controls for the loader hydraulics are a little ugly you'll be glad to use them instead of pulling on that little rope trying to pick the loader up.
This has sat for so long that the V belt that runs the loader is stiff as a board. You'll have to put a new one on it. Other than that it appears to be in pretty nice condition. It is going to need a couple bolts in the extension that holds the controls. It will need the hydraulics checked out and the chains oiled. It should be good to go to the field.
This will haul around 56-70 bales depending on what size your bales are. It will load and haul 14 x 18 or 16 x 18 from about 36 to 48 inches. After you get onto the trick of loading and stacking you can stack a load of bales every 15 minutes if you are stacking close to the field. Stack your bales right after you bale, load in the same direction you baled, keep your speed up instead of slowing down for every bale and you will have a stack of bales before you know it.
I've bought and sold quite a bit of small machinery the past 25 years or so and this better small haying machinery is getting harder and harder to find. Most of the new stuff is so big and expensive the smaller operator can't justify owning it for putting up a few acres of hay. I've paid for a lot of machinery by doing the haying for the neighbors who don't want to or can't put up their own hay. If you have a little swather or good sickle bar mower and a side delivery you can put up a lot of hay with a nice little New Holland 275 or 277 baler & a small tractor. You can make a good days wages by stacking it for them after you get it put up. When we were doing it a few years ago around Helena we were charging two bucks a bale laying in the field, another 50-75 cents a bale to stack it. If you have good small equipment so you aren't broke down all the time it doesn't take long to make pretty good money doing that. With the price of gas and hay the last couple years you would probably want to raise the price a little but there sure is money to be made doing it.
Now is the time to buy equipment. This will be a $3000 bale wagon in June. I have a 1032 that I use personally or I'd keep this one to use. The 1032 is not for sale, but I sold two 1002's in the last month, this is the last bale wagon I have. Who knows what will be around later in the spring?? Might not be any for sale.
I also have an Allis Chalmers WD 45 wide front tractor for sale that would be a perfect companion to this wagon, have a Ford 801 that would be a great haying tractor and may have a couple smaller Fords later this spring. I'll try to get more pictures loaded on there in the next few days. Thanks, Stan Howe 406-949-3448